Pell may be censured by Parliament 15 Jun 200718 Sep 2017 Cardinal-Imam George Pell, who threatened Catholic politicians with excommunication indirectly (and exclusion from the sacraments directly) if they voted in favour of stem cell research being permitted in a new Bill, is liable to being held in contempt of the NSW Parliament, just as his west Australian counterpart, Archbishop-Imam Hickey has been. This appears to be a coordinated campaign by the Catholic Church, as commenters noted similar actions in Scotland and Wales in my first post. In other news, the Catholic Church is opposing Catholics getting involved in Amnesty International, in case they might support the freedom of women to have abortions. I think the signs are clear. A Catholic Church run by a previous Chief Inquisitor is definitely moving to the extreme again, and is becoming fundamentally undemocratic and opposed to liberty of conscience. Expects religious conflicts to follow suit. Politics Religion
Evolution Awww. how cute 7 Jun 2009 Hare Krishna devotees trying to talk about Darwin. Igos, ha! Read More
Epistemology Ruminations after Oxford 21 May 2010 So, it is a day or so after the final conference day, and I am now in Maidenhead, in Windsorshire (did I get that right?), next door to some head of state’s home. I visited Louis Constandinos (now there’s a name that has relevance to religion!), a chemist who reads… Read More
General Science The Golden Compass – a lead ballon? 29 Dec 2007 Henry Gee reviews the Golden Compass, and comes up with largely the same conclusions I would have had I been as insightful as he. A quote: It’s a long time since I read the book, The Northern Lights, on which the film is based, so perhaps it’s a problem with… Read More
Y’know, I used to feel like rising up and defending the Chorch when the fundies would make up stuff about the beliefs. But no more. This time it has gone too far for even this Atheist of the Catholic God. I’m done. They are left to fend for themselves. (I am dead sure that they are going to miss me.)
This appears to be a coordinated campaign by the Catholic Church, as commenters noted similar actions in Scotland and Wales in my first post. They’ve tried it here in the U.S. too, pressuring Catholic politicians over support for legalized abortion. Despite our religion-soaked culture, it seemed to have had little effect, partly because the American version of Catholicism has long been used to quietly ignoring the Vatican on such issues as birth control and partly because the politicians knew resisting such attempts would not hurt them with even anti-abortion Protestants. A Catholic Church run by a previous Chief Inquisitor is definitely moving to the extreme again, and is becoming fundamentally undemocratic and opposed to liberty of conscience. I think the Church remains steadily undemocratic and opposed to liberty of conscience. What changes is the illusions of certain prelates about their power to enforce their will in the more developed nations.
Here in Canada, when Bill C-38 was in the works, there was a bit of pressure to refuse communion for the Prime Minister, but his parish priest maintained it was a matter of respecting personal conscience. I wish more Catholic officials would publicly take a tolerant stand on this issue…well, any issue…
I suspect that most Roman Catholics will do what they have almost always done. They’ll listen to the prelates and then make up their own minds. In Scotland there is a large Catholic community, including politicians, and they don’t vote on the orders of the church (much to the annoyance of the Bishops). Vatican II broke the power of the papacy and however much the leadership may wish to rescind it the laity appear to have taken it to heart. I am suprised that someone would be held in contempt of anything for threatening to disbar a club member for breaking the rules, would the rotary club or masonic lodge be held in contempt if it said something similar to a member?
I suspect that most Roman Catholics will do what they have almost always done. They’ll listen to the prelates and then make up their own minds. In Scotland there is a large Catholic community, including politicians, and they don’t vote on the orders of the church (much to the annoyance of the Bishops). Vatican II broke the power of the papacy and however much the leadership may wish to rescind it the laity appear to have taken it to heart. I am suprised that someone would be held in contempt of anything for threatening to disbar a club member for breaking the rules, would the rotary club or masonic lodge be held in contempt if it said something similar to a member?
A clearer description of the attack on AI is Vatican cardinal calls on Catholics to stop funding Amnesty: A senior Vatican cardinal said yesterday that Catholics should stop donating to human rights group Amnesty International because of its new policy advocating abortion rights for women if they had been raped, were a victim of incest or faced health risks. … (Incidently, why does this blog (site?) ban the word incest? I had a very hard time getting the above quote to pass the autocensor! Er, make that attempt to ban the word; obviously it’s possible to trick it.)